Ramps v Root

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Well, he would be speaking from a position of some authority there. Thankfully Root wasn't seen muttering 'watch the ball' as Amir bounded up!
 
Well, he would be speaking from a position of some authority there. Thankfully Root wasn't seen muttering 'watch the ball' as Amir bounded up!
And thankfully Root didn't have to deal with Ambrose , Walsh, Patterson, Bishop,Waqar,Wasim and Mushtaq in his first 10 test matches . I think Root is our best in 30 years but talent wise Ramprakash was a superb player who struggled as a young man and wasn't probably looked after in the right way . Love the fact he is helping Root
 
Alternatively Ramprakash is fully aware of his own mental limitations as a Test match player and has spotted Root was going through a similar patch of form to what he experienced as a player throughout his career and challenged him to be better than that.

It worked. Good coaching.
 
And thankfully Root didn't have to deal with Ambrose , Walsh, Patterson, Bishop,Waqar,Wasim and Mushtaq in his first 10 test matches . I think Root is our best in 30 years but talent wise Ramprakash was a superb player who struggled as a young man and wasn't probably looked after in the right way . Love the fact he is helping Root

Good post. I remember his early test matches and he grafted his nuts off against the Windies over here, regularly getting 20 odds and getting out to just superb fast bowling. He did have his moments in test cricket averaging over 40 against the aussies and I recall a brilliant hundred in WI.
 
And thankfully Root didn't have to deal with Ambrose , Walsh, Patterson, Bishop,Waqar,Wasim and Mushtaq in his first 10 test matches . I think Root is our best in 30 years but talent wise Ramprakash was a superb player who struggled as a young man and wasn't probably looked after in the right way . Love the fact he is helping Root

If that was the extent of his failure you could cut him some slack. However he struggled against ordinary bowling.

For example, his final test series, against NZ, he averaged 15 against the mighty Daryl Tuffey, Ian Butler and Nathan Astle.

Besides, 'lesser' England batsmen like Butcher and Hussain found the psychological mettle to make runs against the Pakistan and West Indies teams of those times.

At a time when England's test batting is increasingly dependent on Cook and Root, and young lads struggle to adapt to the test game, I wouldn't be polishing his helmet quite as much as some of you are.
 
And thankfully Root didn't have to deal with Ambrose , Walsh, Patterson, Bishop,Waqar,Wasim and Mushtaq in his first 10 test matches . I think Root is our best in 30 years but talent wise Ramprakash was a superb player who struggled as a young man and wasn't probably looked after in the right way . Love the fact he is helping Root

He just didn't have "it"

Soft as shite sorry, plenty others came through against them. Hussain a great example of a bloke less talented but was mentally tougher and grafted his nuts off. Still my favourite player probably.
 
He just didn't have "it"

Soft as shite sorry, plenty others came through against them. Hussain a great example of a bloke less talented but was mentally tougher and grafted his nuts off. Still my favourite player probably.
Simon Hughes, as one of the better analysts and someone who played with him, reckons he didn't know how to relax at international level.

At county level he dominated attacks almost with innocence, but at international level he just tried too hard.

He was badly managed at a time where England were a joke. I firmly believe he would be a huge success now
 
Simon Hughes, as one of the better analysts and someone who played with him, reckons he didn't know how to relax at international level.

At county level he dominated attacks almost with innocence, but at international level he just tried too hard.

He was badly managed at a time where England were a joke. I firmly believe he would be a huge success now

He was badly managed, but they all were, the best players like Stewart, Thorpe, Atherton and Hussain were good enough to come through it. Likes of Hick and Ramps weren't. Way I see it anyway.
 
Different personalities, that's life. Not everyone responds the same way, that's management for you

It is but I am not convinced he would have made it in any era, I just think he didn't have it mentally

At the end of the day its the players who have to score the runs, not the coaches.
 
I don't agree with this opinion that you have to have been a top player to coach a top player. Different skill set required.
 
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