But they weren't! This is what I am trying to put across. This is not a failure of one organisation or a cabal of organisations, this is a catastrophic failure of family, social mores, immigration policy, welfare, care organisations & policing. When we look for scapegoats, we give everybody else involved an excuse. "Nowt to dee wi'me, the polis should've sorted it!" "Where were Social Services?", "What did the government do!"
That I can't answer but section 25 would not be applied lightly , courts would need a convincing rationale to deprive of liberty. They probably don't legally abscond, they just stay out too regular . It's a mute legal point whether they are causing harm to self though, in Scandinavia they would be straight in care
But historically british people have seen the family unit as sacrosanct and state intrusion has been resisted . Few would vote to give social workers more powers.
I would say responsibility lies with the grooming gangs who carried out these crimes. Reading this thread the usual suspects are trying their best to deflect the blame elsewhere but lets put the main blame where it belongs.
I would say responsibility lies with the grooming gangs who carried out these crimes. Reading this thread the usual suspects are trying their best to deflect the blame elsewhere but lets put the main blame where it belongs.
I'm thinking about ordering a takeaway tonight. Should I collect it or get it delivered? Which method gives me less chance of being raped by a "night time economy" rapist?
Yes, that's the binary blame, but there's more than just that isn't there? no-one is trivialising the actions of the abusers.I would say responsibility lies with the grooming gangs who carried out these crimes. Reading this thread the usual suspects are trying their best to deflect the blame elsewhere but lets put the main blame where it belongs.
I'm thinking about ordering a takeaway tonight. Should I collect it or get it delivered? Which method gives me less chance of being raped by a "night time economy" rapist?
The police were told by the girls exactly what was happening. In some cases (seemingly not involving kids in care or I at least hope not) the kids were delivered by them back to the rapists.
Delivered, unless you're planning on engaging with the driver who may or may not be trying to exploit you, ply you with drink, drugs, gifts, tell you you're his girlfriend, then shag you.I would say responsibility lies with the grooming gangs who carried out these crimes. Reading this thread the usual suspects are trying their best to deflect the blame elsewhere but lets put the main blame where it belongs.
I'm thinking about ordering a takeaway tonight. Should I collect it or get it delivered? Which method gives me less chance of being raped by a "night time economy" rapist?
Unfortunately that does seem to be the case (edit; in some places)and it shouldn't be the case.
Any chance the driver will be female?
I didn't say or think that anyone was trivialising the abusers. No trivialisation just lots of deflecting the blame elsewhere because the abusers are an ethnic minority.
Same thing - people are discussing everything around the cases, where blame may lie as well as with the abusers, quite rationally. That's ok I think and isn't necessarily deflection. On / off.
The BBC had a hand full of twats compared the Muslim problem that as a chief of police has said is a country wide problem.
No it's the religion part, keep up at the back.
90 % of this sort of crime is committed by Muslims and they only number about 2 1/2% of the population, just imagine in a few generations time when they number 40% of the population how bad things will be, and it's not just in the UK, Malmo is the rape capital of Europe thanks to Muslims, which is why you now see the Swedes, Norwegians, French, and many other countries kicking up a stink about it, shame the blind fools like those on here want to do what Rotherham common purpose tossers want to do and turn a blind eye to it all and protect the Muslims committing these crimes
You are a prize arsewipe that can not and will not see the truth in that fact that the religion you are so willing to defend even though it is indefensible wants to kill you.
And that word there just shows what calibre of pervert your dealing with
So it's just Muslim nonces you're have a problem with I haven't seen you ever bother condemning the likes of savileThe BBC had a hand full of twats compared the Muslim problem that as a chief of police has said is a country wide problem.
No it's the religion part, keep up at the back.
90 % of this sort of crime is committed by Muslims and they only number about 2 1/2% of the population, just imagine in a few generations time when they number 40% of the population how bad things will be, and it's not just in the UK, Malmo is the rape capital of Europe thanks to Muslims, which is why you now see the Swedes, Norwegians, French, and many other countries kicking up a stink about it, shame the blind fools like those on here want to do what Rotherham common purpose tossers want to do and turn a blind eye to it all and protect the Muslims committing these crimes
You are a prize arsewipe that can not and will not see the truth in that fact that the religion you are so willing to defend even though it is indefensible wants to kill you.
And that word there just shows what calibre of pervert your dealing with
First off we're living 2014 not 1977, and secondly Saville was part of a hand full of perverts associated with the BBC, not part of gangs who's numbers far outweigh Saville's bunch, who prey on vulnerable white girls making them racists as well as perverts and yes I'd like to see Saville & Co. hung for their exploits the same applies to the third world perverts roaming our streets today.
