New Yougov Poll Puts Scottish Independence Campaign in the Lead for the first time

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I think Salmond will be very happy. He will get greater concessions from westminster without having the worry of financing it all themselves. He can't lose really and has already said he won't be pursuing it further even if its a no vote. They have rattle the cage a bit, will get more powers and they will happy with it

But Salmond's position will be untenable
 


I think Salmond will be very happy. He will get greater concessions from westminster without having the worry of financing it all themselves. He can't lose really and has already said he won't be pursuing it further even if its a no vote. They have rattle the cage a bit, will get more powers and they will happy with it

Chinny reckon

But Salmond's position will be untenable

If they get hammered it will. Not a narrow loss - he would claim it as a pyrrhic victory.
 
I think NO has won it,

but I don't think the yes campaign are going to take it very well and will be bitter for a long time.

This.

The Daily Record will be banging on how it was the English voters in Scotland that ruined it for them.
 
Until the newly discovered "benefits" have been explained to them by the backtracking shysters who drag them from pillar to post as and when required. Dress well, speak nicely, with poise and confidence and you could convince the British electorate shit was clay. If you require proof of this it's plastered all over the thread.
boring bastard.
 
Is this going to be the longest thread in SMB history?

Along with a couple of others it's been mint reading. We have some very astute and articulate people here.
 
There will be trouble if and when a No vote is confirmed:

In Glasgow an elderly man who is registered blind and who usually carried a white walking stick is reported to have been punched in the face by a Yes supporter. The incident yesterday is said to have occurred when the man was handing out pro-union leaflets in the city’s George Square.

This article here makes for uncomfortable reading: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...imidation-during-referendum-vote-9741015.html

Essentially though are the Scottish Nationalists much different from any nationalists eg the EDL?

Its now also being reported - lost the link - that English people are cancelling holidays in Scotland for fear of a nationalist backlash. This whole vote hasnt really gone down very well has it?
 
Hmm unusual :)

There will be trouble if and when a No vote is confirmed:

In Glasgow an elderly man who is registered blind and who usually carried a white walking stick is reported to have been punched in the face by a Yes supporter. The incident yesterday is said to have occurred when the man was handing out pro-union leaflets in the city’s George Square.

This article here makes for uncomfortable reading: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...imidation-during-referendum-vote-9741015.html

Essentially though are the Scottish Nationalists much different from any nationalists eg the EDL?

Its now also being reported - lost the link - that English eople are cancelling holidays in Scotland for fear of a nationalist backlash. This whole vote hasnt really gone down very well has it?
If they vote YES I will make a point of avoiding visits to Scotland and the purchase of scottish goods as far as practicable.
Petty I know, but there you go.
 
If they vote YES I will make a point of avoiding visits to Scotland and the purchase of scottish goods as far as practicable.
Petty I know, but there you go.
the article (that I cant now find!!) says pretty much the same thing from fellow Englishmen and women. If the Scots go there will be a backlash against them - big time.
 
There will be trouble if and when a No vote is confirmed:

Essentially though are the Scottish Nationalists much different from any nationalists eg the EDL?

Not in my eyes - not sure if the link below comes from this thread or somewhere else - but it's a fair reflection.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/comment/t...ationalism-ugly-others-084240730.html#oOsASTu

Even if the economic and practical case for Independence had been made (which it hasn't) I would find it very hard to vote yes on ideological grounds.
 
But Salmond's position will be untenable
Both Salmond and Cameron come out as losers IMHO no matter what happens. The whole vote now looks like sheer folly and has done nothing but create very bad feeling towards people - Scots on Scots, Scots on English.

the problem for Salmond is that even with Devo Max you just wonder how watered down it will be. This whole debate, if it has done nothing, is actually stir the English out of their comfy armchair, switch off Big Brother and Strictly Come Dancing and express a not very complieentary view on how the Scots, who already benefit disproportionately from the Union now seem on the verge of getting more.
 
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