Paedophilia in Pakistan

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Watching a channel 4 doc about the abuse of street boys in Pakistan. A place called Peshawar.
Sickening to the point I want to spew.
Then my mind goes to Rochdale, Oxford and all the other towns and cities in England where paedophiliac Pakistani networks have existed.
Religion which demonises a normal , appropriate and consensual sexual expression results in a paedophiliac culture
Am I right?
 


Watching a channel 4 doc about the abuse of street boys in Pakistan. A place called Peshawar.
Sickening to the point I want to spew.
Then my mind goes to Rochdale, Oxford and all the other towns and cities in England where paedophiliac Pakistani networks have existed.
Religion which demonises a normal , appropriate and consensual sexual expression results in a paedophiliac culture
Am I right?
Nope.Cunts fiddling with kids and thinking its perfectly acceptable causes it.Religion is just a canny excuse/scapegoat.
 
Watching a channel 4 doc about the abuse of street boys in Pakistan. A place called Peshawar.
Sickening to the point I want to spew.
Then my mind goes to Rochdale, Oxford and all the other towns and cities in England where paedophiliac Pakistani networks have existed.
Religion which demonises a normal , appropriate and consensual sexual expression results in a paedophiliac culture
Am I right?
No mate, that would indicate it is cultural, if it was religion all those who practice it in this country would also be guilty. It would appear those who have been guilty in this country are more likely to have either a) not integrated with our society b) being fucked up in the head c) both.
 
notice lots of second generation pakistanis , doing the old 'what about the shame of england' routine

honestly there is never any acceptance that they can do any wrong
 
notice lots of second generation pakistanis , doing the old 'what about the shame of england' routine

honestly there is never any acceptance that they can do any wrong
Only a fool would deny what they are doing is wrong. It would be equally as foolish to say it is the result of a religion as it would end up being a generalisation, which would be dangerous.
 
Only a fool would deny what they are doing is wrong. It would be equally as foolish to say it is the result of a religion as it would end up being a generalisation, which would hold the innocent people, the vast majority, guilty.
there is a denial issue in the muslim community in the uk on many issues

they have a list of excuses a mile long and cry islamophobia at any hint of criticism, it is almost engrained into even the sensible and educated ones
 
check out any mainstream muslim commentator on twitter for example , its actually beggars belief

some of them have senior political positions in the media as well at the likes of huff post! they actually shape the news !
give me something please it is late. they are not all of this stance, where did the parliamentary pedophile story go? ah, it has been replaced, not only with a muslim grooming gang but an accompanying speech on the threat of terror!!! hoorah, murica fuck yeah.
 
give me something please it is late. they are not all of this stance, where did the parliamentary pedophile story go? ah, it has been replaced, not only with a muslim grooming gang but an accompanying speech on the threat of terror!!! hoorah, murica fuck yeah.

Yes of course bad news can be buried- in the case you quote the emerging evidence of high level parliamentary abuse.
Yes of course an entity under threat seeks a scapegoat.
I'm sure there will be lots of smoke and mirrors engendered to protect highly placed members of the elite.
I agree. How long ago was the Corcoran boys home first mentioned? Or the Elm Guest House?

However.

The debate I was hoping to trigger was that the interject where a culture demands a total sexual abstinence (other than in a marriage ) inevitably leads to and leaks into some form of abuse.
Whether as was the case with the Church where 12 year old boys were sent to seminaries and emerged 8 years later as sexually charged but emotionally frozen adults or indeed any stricture that celibacy should be observed rigidly and be solely contained within marriage.
To conform with a stricture as written in book compiled 1300 years or 2000 years ago encourages sex on the margins.
In the doc I watched ,which was sickening, that meant street children of 7,8,9 and 10 reported multiple instances of abduction and multiple rape. Basically because that was the only 'socially acceptable' (sic..sick ...sickening ) that was 'believed' to be available/ hidden /not punishable.
To my simple mind a society that closes their consciousness to such sickening abuse needs dragging out of their medieval mind set.
And I still remain horrified that in Rochdale , Oxford and in other places a network exists and still presumably exists where that mind set existed and exists
 
Yes of course bad news can be buried- in the case you quote the emerging evidence of high level parliamentary abuse.
Yes of course an entity under threat seeks a scapegoat.
I'm sure there will be lots of smoke and mirrors engendered to protect highly placed members of the elite.
I agree. How long ago was the Corcoran boys home first mentioned? Or the Elm Guest House?

However.

The debate I was hoping to trigger was that the interject where a culture demands a total sexual abstinence (other than in a marriage ) inevitably leads to and leaks into some form of abuse.
Whether as was the case with the Church where 12 year old boys were sent to seminaries and emerged 8 years later as sexually charged but emotionally frozen adults or indeed any stricture that celibacy should be observed rigidly and be solely contained within marriage.
To conform with a stricture as written in book compiled 1300 years or 2000 years ago encourages sex on the margins.
In the doc I watched ,which was sickening, that meant street children of 7,8,9 and 10 reported multiple instances of abduction and multiple rape. Basically because that was the only 'socially acceptable' (sic..sick ...sickening ) that was 'believed' to be available/ hidden /not punishable.
To my simple mind a society that closes their consciousness to such sickening abuse needs dragging out of their medieval mind set.
And I still remain horrified that in Rochdale , Oxford and in other places a network exists and still presumably exists where that mind set existed and exists

Good post with good points
 
I saw a Muslim mp on TV t'other day putting forward the rather odd defence that it can't be a Pakistani problem as the offenders are largely second and third generation. Must have had their heads turned by the indigenous kiddie fiddlers I suppose. Our home grown paedos are multi cultural thanks, they will pester any ethnicity without targeting those they consider 'lesser'
 
Religion which demonises a normal , appropriate and consensual sexual expression results in a paedophiliac culture
Am I right?

If abstinence = paedophillia that's me and The Birdman screwed...but at least the kids will learn an appreciation of poetry. ;)
 
Always thought it odd that the dsm definition of a pedo is

"defines it as a paraphilia in which adults or adolescents 16 years of age or older have intense and recurrent sexual urges towards and fantasies about prepubescent children that they have either acted on or which cause them distress or interpersonal difficulty"

So technically if you dont act on it, or you ENJOY actting on it your not a pedo.
Like wtf? Medical world does not define someone as a pedo if they enjoy kiddy fiddling...
 
Only a fool would deny what they are doing is wrong. It would be equally as foolish to say it is the result of a religion as it would end up being a generalisation, which would be dangerous.

The religion is a large part of the identity for many British of Pakistani heritage. Are you saying that the way religion is practiced is not a factor?
 
Watching a channel 4 doc about the abuse of street boys in Pakistan. A place called Peshawar.
Sickening to the point I want to spew.
Then my mind goes to Rochdale, Oxford and all the other towns and cities in England where paedophiliac Pakistani networks have existed.
Religion which demonises a normal , appropriate and consensual sexual expression results in a paedophiliac culture
Am I right?

It seems to be a cultural thing in particularly Pashtun culture, in both Pakistan and Afghanistan. I read an article where Canadian troops had been told to turn a blind eye to local Afghan police hiring young boys for services rendered. :confused:
 
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