Well this plane crash/shooting down knacks the 9/11 nutters

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ravydavygravy said:
Did you not read about the bit where they had flying lessons?

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Aye mate I did. Did you actually listen to the guy dishing out the lessons though? Wasn't very complimentary about their ability to control a Cessna, let alone a f***ing jumbo jet. Yet these fuckers were able to carry out fighter pilot-esque maneuvers. Yeah right.
 


not spavin said:
Have you ever asked yourself why "sheeple" are blind to the truth?

There's no reason to ask why, it is quite understandable when the governments of the world constantly play that tune. Why would the majority go to the length of investigating it further when, on the surface, there is a tangible and suitable story to accept.

Why only you brave souls are able to face up to the reality?

I am not as stead-fast as somebody like ProfessionalMackem concerning the true tale of events on that day, i'm even receptive to the stated version of events from government. So I don't think it's a question of asking me (patronisingly) why I am brave enough to face reality, but more so asking why so many people are reluctant to accept it might not be what they've been told.

Does it ever puzzle you that we're happy to be duped by the government about 9/11 and suchlike, despite generally being very critical about governments, especially the Bush regime?

I think this is more or less the same question as point 1.

It's curious that conspiracy theorists give so much thought to these topics, but give no thought whatsoever to the bigger questions they raise.

Of course we do give questions to the bigger questions, infact, when we ask them you're the type of person who ridicules us for doing so.

It's almost as if they're not capable.

Speak for yourself.
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ProfessionalMackem said:
Aye mate I did. Did you actually listen to the guy dishing out the lessons though? Wasn't very complimentary about their ability to control a Cessna, let alone a f***ing jumbo jet. Yet these fuckers were able to carry out fighter pilot-esque maneuvers. Yeah right.
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Fighter pilot-esque?

Two flew straight into massive sky scrapers and one landed on a building. Hardly biggles old boy. I reckon I could do that with a bit of flight simulator under my belt.
 
ProfessionalMackem said:
Eh? Total bollocks there I'm afraid.

20 'terrorists' using stanley knives to hijack 4 planes, ram them into 3 solid structures without knowing how to fly, demolishing 3 huge skyscrapers to dust is not random or weird. It is an astonishing feat.

Whether you believe the official conspiracy or not, this was controlled by some government or shadowy organisation. That is fact.
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No, it's a point of view.
 
daveydavey said:
You are dedicated to your side without at all being open to other ideas or theories.
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Im not at all. I look at the evidence and make a judgement. Surprisingly most that do that tend not to side with the nutjobs.

not spavin said:
:lol: Like a kid who still believes in santa.
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:lol:

ProfessionalMackem said:
Eh? Total bollocks there I'm afraid.

20 'terrorists' using stanley knives to hijack 4 planes, ram them into 3 solid structures without knowing how to fly, demolishing 3 huge skyscrapers to dust is not random or weird. It is an astonishing feat.

Whether you believe the official conspiracy or not, this was controlled by some government or shadowy organisation. That is fact.
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:lol:

The second strike on the towers.

Hold knife to air stewardesses throat and get to gain access to cockpit. Stab pilot. Take over plane when on auto pilot. Lock door and tell people on board to they are going back to airport. Disengage auto pilot and nose dive dangerously through crowded airspace (narrowly missing another plane) until at a low enough level to see towers. Fly plane towards tower. Almost miss the fucker! Boom!

Really difficult that like :lol:

ProfessionalMackem said:
Aye mate I did. Did you actually listen to the guy dishing out the lessons though? Wasn't very complimentary about their ability to control a Cessna, let alone a f***ing jumbo jet. Yet these fuckers were able to carry out fighter pilot-esque maneuvers. Yeah right.
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Fighter pilot manouvres ffs hahaha

It actually meant they flew them dangerously cos they didnt have a clue.
 
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I've been to Ground Zero 3 times over the years, the last time yesterday to visit the new memorial and musuem. Don't think I will go again. I was in a terrorist attack in the UK in the 1990s, for which there is no memorial.

I understand why people who were involved in the events of 9/11 seek out conspiracy theories to try and explain what happen. There are so many questions left unanswered about 9/11 not least of which what on earth could motivate a group of people to commit such an act of violence against people they never knew. These unanswered questions don't mean that the official explanation is wrong, simply that in such a complex series of events with so much destruction if is hard to tie up all of the loose ends

What I don't understand is why people on the other side of the world with no connection to the attacks spend so much time and emotional energy chasing a "truth" which isn't there and never will be.
 
ProfessionalMackem said:
Eh? Total bollocks there I'm afraid.

20 'terrorists' using stanley knives to hijack 4 planes, ram them into 3 solid structures without knowing how to fly, demolishing 3 huge skyscrapers to dust is not random or weird. It is an astonishing feat.

Whether you believe the official conspiracy or not, this was controlled by some government or shadowy organisation. That is fact.
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Is there such a thing?

moshpit said:
This from somebody that freely admitted last night to masturbating over decapitation videos.
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:eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
ravydavygravy said:
Fighter pilot-esque?

Two flew straight into massive sky scrapers and one landed on a building. Hardly biggles old boy. I reckon I could do that with a bit of flight simulator under my belt.
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Total lunacy there marra. Landed on the roof? ffs Massive skycrapers? What did they do look out of the window? :lol:
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If it landed on the roof, they wouldn't have to pull off 270degree turn would they?

Anyone on here thinks they can control a f***ing 767 after they have disengaged autopilot with a few hours in a Cessna and in a simulator are absolute fruit loops. And that's coming from a fruit loop.

Lankester Merrin said:
I've been to Ground Zero 3 times over the years, the last time yesterday to visit the new memorial and musuem. Don't think I will go again. I was in a terrorist attack in the UK in the 1990s, for which there is no memorial.

I understand why people who were involved in the events of 9/11 seek out conspiracy theories to try and explain what happen. There are so many questions left unanswered about 9/11 not least of which what on earth could motivate a group of people to commit such an act of violence against people they never knew. These unanswered questions don't mean that the official explanation is wrong, simply that in such a complex series of events with so much destruction if is hard to tie up all of the loose ends

What I don't understand is why people on the other side of the world with no connection to the attacks spend so much time and emotional energy chasing a "truth" which isn't there and never will be.
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What? Because you went to ground zero it gives you special insight? Haha I've heard it all now. We went to war because of this attack. British troops have died in the middle east because of this attack. Am I allowed an opinion of it now?

What about the loved ones to the ones that died on 9/11? Are they allowed to ask questions, if that's alright with you?
 
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ProfessionalMackem said:
Total lunacy there marra. Landed on the roof? ffs Massive skycrapers? What did they do look out of the window? :lol: Probably. That's what they're for.

If it landed on the roof, they wouldn't have to pull off 270degree turn would they? Lost me sorry.

Anyone on here thinks they can control a f***ing 767 after they have disengaged autopilot with a few hours in a Cessna and in a simulator are absolute fruit loops. And that's coming from a fruit loop. Ask @HillView Aviator he's knocking around.
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My bold.
 
not spavin said:
Two people from the Lockerbie bombing survived the explosion and fall - it's thought they died from blood loss or exposure. One eye witness said that a body he found was clutching the grass he fell on.

Air crashes are strange things.
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At least three of the passengers on the Air India flight that blew up over the Atlantic drowned after falling for 31,000 feet.
 
ProfessionalMackem said:
Total lunacy there marra. Landed on the roof? ffs Massive skycrapers? What did they do look out of the window? :lol:
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If it landed on the roof, they wouldn't have to pull off 270degree turn would they?

Anyone on here thinks they can control a f***ing 767 after they have disengaged autopilot with a few hours in a Cessna and in a simulator are absolute fruit loops. And that's coming from a fruit loop.



What? Because you went to ground zero it gives you special insight? Haha I've heard it all now. We went to war because of this attack. British troops have died in the middle east because of this attack. Am I allowed an opinion of it now?

What about the loved ones to the ones that died on 9/11? Are they allowed to ask questions, if that's alright with you?
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How many times, that simply highlights how shit a pilot he was. He couldnt even spot the pentagon at first so flew past it and had to make a loop, which could have brought the plane down! It didnt come down it this case and he was then basically able to line it up and fly straight at it.

Are you saying all the air traffic controllers who tracked the flight throughout are lying? Are you saying all those on the streets who said it was a commercial plane lying? Were the people who got on the flight at the airport kidnapped and then somehow placed at the crash site?

And yes, of course they looked out the windows ffs :lol:
 
I knew some of the lads who helped with the search after the PanAm Lockerby disaster.
They found some bodies face down, arms and legs spreadeagled out skydiver style, obviously still alive till they hit the deck, hoping they could could slow down their fall and maybe survive.
 
dangermows said:
How many times, that simply highlights how shit a pilot he was. He couldnt even spot the pentagon at first so flew past it and had to make a loop, which could have brought the plane down! It didnt come down it this case and he was then basically able to line it up and fly straight at it.

Are you saying all the air traffic controllers who tracked the flight throughout are lying? Are you saying all those on the streets who said it was a commercial plane lying? Were the people who got on the flight at the airport kidnapped and then somehow placed at the crash site?

And yes, of course they looked out the windows ffs :lol:
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Its the loop itself you dimwit, find out what speeds and what altitude it was carried out in. Fighter pilot-esque.

Jeesus flying a 767, picking out targets to hit and just looking out of the windows. Beggars belief the stupidity on here sometimes.
 
ProfessionalMackem said:
Its the loop itself you dimwit, find out what speeds and what altitude it was carried out in. Fighter pilot-esque.

Jeesus flying a 767, picking out targets to hit and just looking out of the windows. Beggars belief the stupidity on here sometimes.
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I know that thick heed. He attempted it, whereas a proper pilot in such a plane wouldnt, cos it could cause the thing to crash! It isnt impossible though, as you are trying to make out. It could bring the plane down, or it couldnt. And in this case it didnt. Fuck sake man, youre acting as if any dangerous/difficult move i seither impossible or results in a crash, you are wrong.

You must be on a wind up. Why are you struggling to accept that they nosed dived through crowded air space (the records show they just missed another plane) until they were very low. The towers are pretty big ya know so they could locate them with the naked eye. Then, even when it was a straight approach, they almost missed it :lol:
 
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