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:lol::lol::lol::lol: f***ing hell . When did sheikh mansour take over?

I was chatting to Ellis and he said 'Fuck it, time to shit or get off the pot - fuck financial fair play, let's give it a proper f***ing go'. Make of that what you will. I didn't realise Ellis was such a sweary bloke. :) This is not true.
 


I was chatting to Ellis and he said 'Fuck it, time to shit or get off the pot - fuck financial fair play, let's give it a proper f***ing go'. Make of that what you will. I didn't realise Ellis was such a sweary bloke. :) This is not true.

He actually swears far more than that. :lol::lol:
 
How? Seriously mate how can you come up with such a daft statement! Not saying he is, but unless you have followed Ustaris career in depth then you are talking shit. Typical of hearing a foreign name and presuming he is better than what we have. Pickford has played now at all lower levels and if we go down his next step is the championship which would give us an ideal opportunity to give a local player a chance.
In the games he's played in he has a better reading of the game, gets his angles spot on better than Westwood, comes for and is more assured for crosses than Westwood is, therefore I would rather have him than Westwood any day he's shite.
 
In the games he's played in he has a better reading of the game, gets his angles spot on better than Westwood, comes for and is more assured for crosses than Westwood is, therefore I would rather have him than Westwood any day he's shite.
Serious question, how many games have you seen him play in?
 
4, but you can tell from one game if a keeper is any good, and you think Westwood is good I take it then ?
You cant tell if a keeper is any good after 1 game, and if you could I would make the judgement that Ustari would not last 10 minutes in the Premier League and even less in the Championship. The bloke might be a good shot stopper but he is way way too small for England and in time that would be picked up on by the other teams and he would be bombarded constantly. As for Westwood, he is not good enough for Sunderland. He is and always has been a bog standard Championship level player, and will never be anything more than that. If it was down to me, I would try and keep hold of Mannone, hopefully if we stop up then he will stay but if we go down then I think he will be sold given he has only a year left and he is a saleable asset. As for the Number 2, again if we stop up then an experienced keeper who will be happy to be a No2 or if we go down I would give Pickford a chance, he is 19 now and has done nothing wrong when out on loan and its about time we gave a youngster a chance, he seems capable enough and highly regarded so why not.
 
You cant tell if a keeper is any good after 1 game, and if you could I would make the judgement that Ustari would not last 10 minutes in the Premier League and even less in the Championship. The bloke might be a good shot stopper but he is way way too small for England and in time that would be picked up on by the other teams and he would be bombarded constantly. As for Westwood, he is not good enough for Sunderland. He is and always has been a bog standard Championship level player, and will never be anything more than that. If it was down to me, I would try and keep hold of Mannone, hopefully if we stop up then he will stay but if we go down then I think he will be sold given he has only a year left and he is a saleable asset. As for the Number 2, again if we stop up then an experienced keeper who will be happy to be a No2 or if we go down I would give Pickford a chance, he is 19 now and has done nothing wrong when out on loan and its about time we gave a youngster a chance, he seems capable enough and highly regarded so why not.
If the Keeper is involved a fair bit in a game you can tell how he reads a game, Westwood is only any good as a shot stopper and even that's only some of the time, I'm not talking about Pickford I'm comparing Westwood and Ustari.
 
We are desperate for a goal scorer next season. Someone Bony mould who can do the lot. Like the look of Immobile at Torino (top scorer in Italy with 20 so far).

Definitely NOT McCormack. Will be 28 start of season and really can't see him making the step up.

Caulker was a great shout if Cardiff go down.
 
We are desperate for a goal scorer next season. Someone Bony mould who can do the lot. Like the look of Immobile at Torino.

Definitely NOT McCormack. Will be 28 start of season and really can't see him making the step up.

Caulker was a great shout if Cardiff go down.
Immobile is going to BVB.

edit: probably
 
We are desperate for a goal scorer next season. Someone Bony mould who can do the lot. Like the look of Immobile at Torino (top scorer in Italy with 20 so far).

Definitely NOT McCormack. Will be 28 start of season and really can't see him making the step up.

Caulker was a great shout if Cardiff go down.
Have we not got enough immobile forwards ? :cool:
 
If the Keeper is involved a fair bit in a game you can tell how he reads a game, Westwood is only any good as a shot stopper and even that's only some of the time, I'm not talking about Pickford I'm comparing Westwood and Ustari.
Ok then, bottom line is they are both not good enough, regardless of what league we are in. To me its like comparing shit with shite! And as for scouting a keeper for one game and knowing how good he is you are either a genius or a more probably clueless.
 
Provided we stay up, I'd like us to go back into the loan market and use it to our advantage like we have done this season.

For sure its not ideal, but if we can sign a few good players on a permanent basis, the few extra bodies on loan could compliment them.

As a poster on here pointed out only a few weeks ago, Spanish clubs for the most part are on their knees financially, we could do worse than try grab a few bargains there.
 
Ok then, bottom line is they are both not good enough, regardless of what league we are in. To me its like comparing shit with shite! And as for scouting a keeper for one game and knowing how good he is you are either a genius or a more probably clueless.
Dear me, if you can't figure out if a keeper is any good by how he reads a game and organizes himself and getting his angles sorted then it's not me that's clueless, do you know what goalkeeping is about by any chance ?
 
Ok then, bottom line is they are both not good enough, regardless of what league we are in. To me its like comparing shit with shite! And as for scouting a keeper for one game and knowing how good he is you are either a genius or a more probably clueless.
Ustari could be good enough, Westwood isn't, keep the Argie with Pickford as second back-up, but hopefully out on loan somewhere getting games and learning his trade.
 
We've had a target list drawn up in case we get relegated, but what about staying up?

I'd personally still look at the likes of Byram, Lees and Lascelles from Leeds and Forrest respectively, there were some murmurings in Italy about Kovacic should we stay up but I think we can discard those!
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