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Wierd Valley Mackem
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Would you like to tell us what your Communist Manifesto is?
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gocatss
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Always vote against Labour in Sunderland.
If you can't vote Tory you have alternatives in the UKIP etc.
If you can't vote Tory you have alternatives in the UKIP etc.
John Steed
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He's just said they are not his party.
This is classic smb lefty bollocks, discredit the poster and you discredit his point. It's easy to see through but I suppose it might draw in the more weak minded on here.
Why do you hate ukip, are they not far enough to the right for you? Do you mourn the passing of the BNP as you carefully polish your iron and knights cross collection.
All I've done above is what you did in that reply. You see how easy it is to twist what somebody is saying and try and discredit them. You owe him an apology.
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I oppose unlimited immigration.
Critics draw two assumptions from this I must be
1) racist
2) xenophobic
This is the biggest and most deceitful lie thrown at this party, as Farage quoted "UKIP are not anti-immigration, we are anti-limited immigration". That is, opposing immigration for practical, reasonable and common sense terms. That means defending our jobs, our infrastructure, our services before they are squeezed and overstretched to the point of no return. That is not about colour or nationality, it is about pure practicality.
I love europe, I love european people, I appreciate european culture, but I oppose the European Union and I oppose a policy which gives us no right to control our own borders or say who comes in or out of this country.
The United States, Canada and Australia have tougher immigration policies than us, ones which filter and ensure only those who can make a serious contribution get in, therefore shaping and controlling immigration to the extent that it becomes beneficial to those countries. That is what we need, that is what UKIP want and is any idiot going to get up and tell me now that those policies are racist and xenophobic? Is anyone going to tell me now that we should let millions beyond number continue come into our country to share resources we don't have? It doesn't matter if they are European, Asian, America or African, we need to be serious about immigration.
David Cameron in 2010 promised to "reduce immigration to under 100,000", this year numbers shown that net immigration had increased to a record high, whilst on the other hand the Labour party confessed that they had deliberately sought for mass migration policies so that they could politically capitalize on it.
Open your eyes, come to your senses and stop the silly, anti-intellectual, lazy name-calling against UKIP!
Critics draw two assumptions from this I must be
1) racist
2) xenophobic
This is the biggest and most deceitful lie thrown at this party, as Farage quoted "UKIP are not anti-immigration, we are anti-limited immigration". That is, opposing immigration for practical, reasonable and common sense terms. That means defending our jobs, our infrastructure, our services before they are squeezed and overstretched to the point of no return. That is not about colour or nationality, it is about pure practicality.
I love europe, I love european people, I appreciate european culture, but I oppose the European Union and I oppose a policy which gives us no right to control our own borders or say who comes in or out of this country.
The United States, Canada and Australia have tougher immigration policies than us, ones which filter and ensure only those who can make a serious contribution get in, therefore shaping and controlling immigration to the extent that it becomes beneficial to those countries. That is what we need, that is what UKIP want and is any idiot going to get up and tell me now that those policies are racist and xenophobic? Is anyone going to tell me now that we should let millions beyond number continue come into our country to share resources we don't have? It doesn't matter if they are European, Asian, America or African, we need to be serious about immigration.
David Cameron in 2010 promised to "reduce immigration to under 100,000", this year numbers shown that net immigration had increased to a record high, whilst on the other hand the Labour party confessed that they had deliberately sought for mass migration policies so that they could politically capitalize on it.
Open your eyes, come to your senses and stop the silly, anti-intellectual, lazy name-calling against UKIP!
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Do football academy lads who are released as a result of cheap foreign imported footballers still mill about on the training ground in full kit, shinnies and boots on as well or is it just unemployed builders who still get dressed for work?
And I thought the unemployed didn't get out of their pyjamas?
Its all quite confusing
And I thought the unemployed didn't get out of their pyjamas?
Its all quite confusing
Mr Vertigo
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He's neither of those things, he simply uses veiled racism and bigotry as tools to further his own agenda. He has identified them as major weaknesses in the psyche of the British people and is exploiting them as much as he can.
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Kentuckian
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He is sounding a bit like Clegg did during those debates. Desperate measures.
JumpingAnaconda
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Of course you must reach your own conclusions, but I can not agree with your analysis here. I think Farage has shown a little bit of ego on occasions, but he has also shown humility and admitted when his ego has got on top (the plane crash incident being a great example). Generally however I think he shows a genuine statesman like interest in politics and the nation. He doesn't do too badly bearing in mind his party is evolving from a rag-tag to organised state during an era of hyper-critical media exposure.
Skandhaless
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People can say anything , for someone who its not his party and who is new to this board , he certainly seems to be putting the extreme hard yards in , it's almost like canvassing but why ever would he do that on mass media just before an election ??
And as for you telling me who I owe an apology to , you can get fucked
JumpingAnaconda
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People can say anything , for someone who its not his party and who is new to this board , he certainly seems to be putting the extreme hard yards in , it's almost like canvassing but why ever would he do that on mass media just before an election ??
And as for you telling me who I owe an apology to , you can get fucked
Sorry, you still seem to be shirking this. I don't need an apology, I would just like an explanation of your thinking regarding how you reached the conclusion that I have a problem with people with brown skin. It is quite an accusation and in this day and age such accusations can be very damaging, so I think it is fair that you should explain the reasoning that lead to this conclusion.
I am still waiting for your explanation. If you can say such a thing surely you can justify it when pressed?
John Steed
Striker
People can say anything , for someone who its not his party and who is new to this board , he certainly seems to be putting the extreme hard yards in , it's almost like canvassing but why ever would he do that on mass media just before an election ??
And as for you telling me who I owe an apology to , you can get fucked
Just looks like he s putting another point of view and there is nothing to suggest he supports ukip or dislikes brown people. There are two or three on here I expect to play the race card in a a discussion like this, but I thought you'd be above that.
monkeytassle
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I agree with this. I applaud this. Now that's their entire pitch done.
The poster obviously isn't clear - bit like the UKIP themselves.
Lankester Merrin
Striker
Spot on.
Milliband became leader of the Labour Party without telling anyone what his policies were, and he has done everything he can to limit the number of policy commitments Labour have made. There is nothing sinister about this, they are an oppostion party a year away from an election
If I were Farage I wouldn't tell anyone what my exact policies were at this stage of the electoral cycle - they are doing so well without them why would you bother.
The coalition don't really have anything either - they agreed an legilaslative programme based on the coalition agreement, they delivered that a year ago, and have been unable to agree any new policies. Last year parliament sat for the fewest days ever. Cameron is effectively the long serving caretaker prime minister ever, with an executive mandate but not an legislative one.
Man About Town
Winger
Could have used that brickie to repair the wall below that advertising hoarding
I'll take capitalism over a corporatocracy every time. Whether UKIP's policies will genuinely aim to take on corporate law remains to be seen, but being more capitalist than the main three parties is definitely a good thing. Big companies already have several advantges over smaller ones due to the power and efficiency of their workforces. They are becoming virually unchallengeable with the added protections of corporate laws and welfare and their cronies in national and European governments.
Lankester Merrin
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He's certainly charismatic, but I think that it is overstating it a bit to call it hyper-critical - he has had an incredibly easy ride from the press for most of the last few years, and still has a lot of powerful friends in the media - including the Express Group of newspapers whose Chief Political correspondent doubles as UKIPs Director of Communications
The Archer
Striker
UKIPs MEPs have some of the worst attendance records in the parliament. Farage himself had the 5th worst.
Why anyone would vote for someone who will do nowt to stop the things they are so vehemently opposed to is beyond me.
Why anyone would vote for someone who will do nowt to stop the things they are so vehemently opposed to is beyond me.
tunstall birdman
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Does not look like it to me.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ple-claims-Ukip-councillor-MEP-candidate.html
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Deleted member 27897
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that newspaper and those comments are about as accurate and as relevant to UKIP as a whole as your chances are of getting a woman.
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